# @drawingcenter on Instagram

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- **Posted:** 2017-12-30T14:04:51.000+00:00
- **Account Owner:** The Drawing Center (@drawingcenter) — https://gondola.cc/drawingcenter

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"Judith Bernstein: Cabinet of Horrors" is on  view in our Main Gallery. *Please note that The Drawing Center is closed for the holidays through Tuesday, January 2. Our current exhibitions are all on view through February 4, 2018.*
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Excerpt from conversation between artists Mickalene Thomas & Judith Bernstein 〰️
MT: What was it like for women artists during those times? Where’ d you go? What was your New York City like then? Because I know what it was like for me after I graduated in 2002. Could you talk about your experience as an artist during those days? 〰️
JB: Well, I’ll tell you frankly, I was kind of on tenterhooks, because it’s very hard to make that transition coming from an academic situation where I didn’t realize the prejudice against women artists. Don’t misunderstand me. But it wasn’t anything that was any big deal in comparison to the brick wall that you hit, by the way, when you came to New York at that time. 〰️
And it’s funny, because I went to Penn State as an undergraduate. There were three men to every woman at that time. That’s not how it is now. Then when I went to Yale, it was an all-male school. In 1967 when I graduated, that was the first year they allowed women As a graduate student, there were only like three women in my class, and all the rest were guys. It was a different time frame; now the gender makeup of academic institutions has really shifted. Absolutely—definitely more women than men in these programs now. Women are dominating at a large number but are still underrepresented 
in galleries, museums, and private collections. 
#JudithBernstein judith_bernstein 
Image: Judith Bernstein, “Capital Trumpenschlong”, 2017.

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