# @wired on Instagram

- **Type:** Video
- **Original URL:** https://www.instagram.com/p/DWRH1qID9vo
- **Gondola URL:** https://gondola.cc/posts/61280150-wired-instagram
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- **Posted:** 2026-03-24T14:00:40.000+00:00
- **Account Owner:** WIRED (@wired) — https://gondola.cc/wired

## Caption

Chris Hayes makes a living from attention: What deserves some, what doesn’t, and how to make sure the public gives their own limited span of it to the right things.

In 2025, the host of MS Now’s “All In With Chris Hayes” released “The Sirens’ Call: How Attention Became the World’s Most Endangered Resource”—a book whose central thesis argues that attention has become the defining commodity of modern life. In keeping with that theme, Hayes himself is everywhere audiences spend time: opining on TV, hosting a podcast called “Why Is This Happening?”, interacting with his thousands of followers on social networks, and posting vertical videos there as well. In other words, Hayes is both adept at considering the attention economy from an intellectual perch and is participating in it as an attention merchant himself.

That’s specifically why WIRED’s Global Editorial Director Katie Drummond wanted to talk to Hayes to kick off season two of “The Big Interview” podcast. He has, after all, spent years studying and theorizing about attention. Given our current circumstances, it would probably behoove the rest of us to do a little of the same. 

When the interview took place in early March, the US and Israel’s war with Iran was just getting started. Even in those early days, it had become a black hole for our attention, from relentless news alerts to President Trump’s Truth Social posts to AI-generated Department of War propaganda.

Tap the 🔗 in bio to listen to and read the full interview.

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