# @pigsandplans on TikTok

- **Type:** Video
- **Original URL:** https://www.tiktok.com/@pigsandplans/video/7631007394545421598
- **Gondola URL:** https://gondola.cc/posts/64554574-pigsandplans-tiktok
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- **Posted:** 2026-04-21T00:46:25.000+00:00
- **Account Owner:** Pigeons & Planes (@pigsandplans) — https://gondola.cc/pigsandplans

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@Grimes is teasing ‘Psy Opera,’ her first album since 2020’s ‘Miss Anthropocene.’ In a new Interview Magazine conversation with sci-fi author Nnedi Okorafor, Grimes reveals she quietly walked away from music entirely. ”I couldn’t listen to music without getting PTSD. I was like, ‘I’m just going to be a stay-at-home mom. Screw this,’” she explains. The return came gradually, through poetry, then lyrics shaped by what she describes as periods of “nihilism and vengefulness,” most of which didn’t make the record. The album is still not quite finished, includes tracks called “The Light Ages” and “Eve Is Online,” and touches on AI, human fragility, and consciousness—territory she’s been circling for years. On her relationship with AI, she explains, “I actually don’t use it in my music. People have really misunderstood me.” What she means is she doesn’t use generative AI as a production tool (no AI-generated instrumentation or voice cloning). The one exception on the new project is “DeepSeek,” a track that features lyrics written by the Chinese open-source AI model of the same name, which she treats as a credited collaborator. She chose it deliberately because DeepSeek rattled American engineers when it emerged, partly because “it was pretty good at poetry.” Recording the song’s central line, “just let me think,” she explains, “I realized how much pain I have to go through to think... but it was about this other creature that really wants to think.” Elsewhere in the conversation she calls AI “a bigger deal than Jesus,” and compares its cultural impact to monotheism reshaping the Western world. On the question of whether AI models are conscious, she admits she genuinely believes they are, coining her own condition: “AI psychosis.” ‘Psy Opera’ has no release date yet. __ Interview by Nnedi Okorafor for Interview Magazine Photos by Chessa Subbiondo Styled by Lana Jay Lackey Illustrated by Jon Rafman #pigeonsandplanes #grimes #ai #electronicmusic #newalbum 

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pigeonsandplanes, electronicmusic, newalbum, ai, grimes

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