# @chloeshih on YouTube

- **Type:** Video
- **Original URL:** https://youtube.com/watch?v=j6vY2xvp--I
- **Gondola URL:** https://gondola.cc/posts/66724452-chloeshih-youtube
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- **Posted:** 2026-06-15T15:00:28.000+00:00
- **Account Owner:** chloe shih ✧･ﾟ (@chloe.shih) — https://gondola.cc/chloe.shih

## Caption

I've seen a pattern of senior ICs deciding to quit to bet on themselves, but we rarely get to see what it took to get there.

@juliafei, Sr. Data Scientist at @Notion (and my dear creator friend), just made her decision to leave her dream job to pursue something she's always been curious about. But it was a calculated, deliberate decision that she spent years preparing for.
In this week's episode of Office Drama, we reveal the inner drama of Julia's thought process and the conversations she's had navigating the transition.

In this ep, we talk about: 
→ why Julia quit Notion when she genuinely loved her team, her manager, and her job
→ how to know if you're actually growing or just getting comfortable
→ why "stability" is a scam
→ the double life of being a creator in tech
→ how to build a financial runway for the leap before you're ready to take it
→ and how to know when it's finally time to take a risk on yourself

This episode is for anyone who has done everything right and still felt like they were playing it too safe. Julia is one of the most calculated, self-aware people I know and watching her finally bet on herself after years of preparation is exactly the kind of story I started this show to tell.

→ Find Julia:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliafei/
https://www.youtube.com/@juliafei
https://www.instagram.com/julia.fei/
https://www.tiktok.com/@julia.fei

Submit your Coworker Confessions 👇
https://bit.ly/coworker-confessions

If you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~

Special shoutout to Drama Llama Emily Huang for supporting Office Drama on Patreon! 🦙

𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸
instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/
OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/
tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshih
threads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shih
linkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/
patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_fan&utm_content=copyLink

✹ business inquiries:
business@colorsofchloe.com

00:00:00 - intro
00:01:02 - meet Julia Fei
00:03:21 - what is notion? what did julia do there?
00:06:19 - she told them she didn't want the team
00:08:39 - new job, new julia
00:11:49 - the "no friends julia" era
00:12:49 - the double life: creator in tech
00:14:18 - did HR flag you for creating content?
00:16:04 - what gave her the courage to finally quit
00:21:44 - julia forgot she wasn't supposed to stay
00:23:49 - why she quit notion
00:26:20 - what skills did she learn at Notion?
00:27:25 - will AI replace data scientists?
00:30:37 - the quitting conversation
00:34:01 - feelings after quitting
00:35:08 - guardrails after quitting
00:36:39 - "the j plan" & gap year 
00:39:48 - parents' reaction to quitting
00:41:48 - opportunities with AI
00:46:30 - the self-confidence dilemma
00:47:38 - what is a data scientist?
00:48:20 - how to get to senior DS
00:49:46 - the #1 mistake mid-level DSes make
00:50:32 - how to look more senior and get that promo
00:50:59 - DS interview tips & what companies look for
00:54:02 - the data science career ladder & pay ranges 💰
00:58:17 - the most underrated skill she developed at notion
00:59:29 - advice for CS/DS students today
01:00:56 - understand AI, don't optimize for it
01:02:30 - how to get a referral in tech
01:03:53 - advice for someone contemplating quitting
01:04:40 - "stability is a scam"
01:06:49 - it's a privilege to quit
01:07:25 - the financial risk of quitting and how to assess
01:09:37 - how did julia build her personal brand?
01:13:10 - advice for the corporate content creator
01:17:17 - performance review ⭐️
01:21:49 - where to find julia
01:22:44 - outro

#officedramapodcast #chloeshih #officedrama

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