# @chloeshih on YouTube

- **Type:** Video
- **Original URL:** https://youtube.com/watch?v=wbcsNPWaCdk
- **Gondola URL:** https://gondola.cc/posts/66724463-chloeshih-youtube
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- **Posted:** 2026-06-08T15:00:25.000+00:00
- **Account Owner:** chloe shih ✧･ﾟ (@chloe.shih) — https://gondola.cc/chloe.shih

## Caption

My old Discord work bestie just got promoted *twice* in one year and I needed to know how he did it without losing himself in the process.

Tobi Bisiriyu is a Product Design Manager at Discord and he's one of those rare people who is genuinely great at his job, actually likes it, and still makes work the least interesting thing about him. He cosplays, he goes to anime conventions, he walks one hour every day without exception, and he has a philosophy about life that I think more people in tech need to hear.

In this ep, we talk about:
→ Why looking competent is actually what's holding junior designers back
→ the "contract you write for yourself" and how to know if you're breaching it
→ why middle management is actually a "death" trap
→ say yes to the scary thing...before you talk yourself out of it.
→ being greedy "with integrity" and why it's good to want it all
→ and why getting a four in life matters more than getting one at work

This episode is for anyone who is good at their job but wonders if there's a version of success that doesn't require you to give everything else up. Tobi is one of the most intentional people I've ever worked with and somehow he got even more thoughtful since we last worked together.

→ Find Tobi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobibisiriyu

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https://bit.ly/coworker-confessions

If you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~

𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸
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✹ business inquiries: business@colorsofchloe.com

CHAPTERS
00:00:00 - intro
00:01:07 - meet Tobi Bisiriyu
00:01:56 - work besties at Discord
00:04:07 - who bullies you more: PMs or engineers?
00:05:38 - the "b" word
00:08:06 - the handheld mic era
00:10:47 - feeling invisible in rooms
00:12:15 - pop mart slave & anime expo budget
00:13:28 - do you narc on a moonlighter?
00:14:42 - would you let a PM design with AI?
00:16:25 - the broccoli call
00:18:04 - when did you know your career path?
00:21:40 - lawyer → pharmacist → fake Snapchat portfolio in 30 days
00:22:24 - personal shield 🛡️
00:22:48 - turning point: anime unlocked something
00:26:46 - you can grieve, but you have to go locked in
00:28:04 - role models
00:31:39 - grit is the word of the day
00:32:35 - the contract you write for yourself
00:34:24 - be greedy with integrity
00:36:05 - say yes before you talk yourself out of it
00:37:16 - finding clarity in the smoke
00:38:30 - what does five years look like?
00:39:59 - getting promoted twice
00:41:10 - middle management is a death trap
00:42:53 - the spiderweb of designer traits
00:45:51 - the three things that actually get you promoted
00:46:36 - what junior designers get wrong
00:48:20 - Ouran High School Host Club & knowing your self-worth
00:50:47 - video games can make you a better designer
00:53:11 - can taste be taught?
00:54:16 - get a four in life, not just at work
00:55:44 - performance review ⭐️
00:57:44 - where to find Tobi
00:58:44 - outro

#officedramapodcast #chloeshih #officedrama

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