# @chloeshih on YouTube

- **Type:** Video
- **Original URL:** https://youtube.com/watch?v=2gRtVAWLFxk
- **Gondola URL:** https://gondola.cc/posts/66724475-chloeshih-youtube
- **Thumbnail:** https://img.gondola.cc/tr:w-,h-,fo-auto/postThumbnails/30df739cb9.jpg
- **Posted:** 2026-06-01T15:00:11.000+00:00
- **Account Owner:** chloe shih ✧･ﾟ (@chloe.shih) — https://gondola.cc/chloe.shih

## Caption

It's been about 2 years and 3 mo since I was *infamously* laid off from my dream product manager job at Discord. And today, I finally sit with my old manager to talk about life after layoffs. 

Derek Yang is now a Principal Product Manager at Roblox, and before that he was at YouTube, Twitch, Yik Yak, Facebook, and Discord where he was also my last ever corporate manager. 

In this ep, we talk about: 
→ What it actually means to "make it" in tech (spoiler: he still doesn't think he has)
→ the performance review that humbled him and forever changed 
→ how he approaches his career
→ why working hard is not enough and what actually gets you recognized
→ what he gave up becoming a new dad
→ and why sustainability is his whole era right now

This episode is for anyone who has ever put their whole heart into their work and still felt like it wasn't enough. Derek is one of the most thoughtful people I know and I learned something new about him even after years of friendship.

→ Find Derek on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dereklyang

Submit your Coworker Confessions 👇
https://bit.ly/coworker-confessions

If you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~

𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸
instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/
OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/
tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshih
threads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shih
linkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/
patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_fan&utm_content=copyLink

✹ business inquiries:
business@colorsofchloe.com

00:00:00 - intro
00:01:18 - meet Derek Yang
00:02:33 - the layoff & what came after
00:04:37 - do your asian parents know what you do?
00:06:19 - have you made it yet?
00:07:14 - giving up on his acting career
00:08:38 - Hajime No Ippo & building confidence
00:10:26 - what is Derek's superpower?
00:13:56 - truck-kun
00:15:40 - morning mantra
00:16:58 - curl this dumbbell
00:17:56 - anime merch spread
00:18:50 - project managers are annoying
00:20:18 - personal shield 🛡️
00:20:42 - role models
00:22:36 - values: curiosity, persistence & optimism
00:23:10 - the brunch that changed everything
00:24:50 - humbled by a bad review
00:27:30 - the skill of min-maxing
00:30:46 - becoming a dad
00:32:05 - the youths have impostor syndrome
00:34:37 - Chloe was a little s*** to her managers
00:36:31 - how do you define success?
00:39:27 - Chloe's starting a production company
00:43:31 - the 4 layers of mental strength
00:45:37 - advice for Chloe as a new manager
00:46:13 - racehorse vs. workhorse
00:48:21 - performance review ⭐️
00:50:09 - where to find Derek
00:51:46 - outro

#chloeshih #officedramapodcast #officedrama

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