# @thewrap on Instagram

- **Type:** Video
- **Original URL:** https://www.instagram.com/p/DcKGjqcNxNW
- **Gondola URL:** https://gondola.cc/posts/69396616-thewrap-instagram
- **Thumbnail:** https://img.gondola.cc/tr:w-,h-,fo-auto/postThumbnails/6a4a08d265.jpg
- **Posted:** 2026-08-17T22:27:05.000+00:00
- **Account Owner:** The Wrap (@thewrap) — https://gondola.cc/thewrap

## Caption

For Deborah and Ava, it always comes back to the joke.

#Hacks co-creators #LuciaAniello and #JenStatsky break down the full-circle writing moment between #JeanSmart's Deborah and #HannahEinbinder's Ava in their pursuit of the better joke.

Watch the full interview at the link in bio.

## Stats

- **Views:** 9,044
- **Likes:** 528
- **Shares:** 0
- **Comments:** 12

## Tags

hacks, luciaaniello, jeansmart, hannaheinbinder, jenstatsky

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