# @essence on Instagram

- **Type:** Video
- **Original URL:** https://www.instagram.com/p/Cuhn7qrpod7
- **Gondola URL:** https://gondola.cc/posts/7935221-essence-instagram
- **Thumbnail:** https://img.gondola.cc/tr:w-,h-,fo-auto/thumbnails/ba39b23a85.jpg
- **Posted:** 2023-07-10T17:35:31.000+00:00
- **Account Owner:** ESSENCE (@essence) — https://gondola.cc/essence

## Caption

On Love, Loss and Legacy. 

“Sometimes I am a mess when it comes to not being the perfect wife, the perfect mother, the perfect sister, the perfect friend, the perfect daughter. But that mess means I’m giving it all that I have. I’m leaving it all out there, mess and all—because when you love and when you’re giving your best, best comes with mess. The mess helps me to appreciate the beauty.” - thasunda 

ESSENCE Ventures President and CEO Caroline Wanga wangawoman and President and CEO of TIAA Thasunda Brown Duckett open up about embracing the mess in order to truly appreciate the journey during their Chief to Chief interview, which explores Black women as chief executive officers of home, culture and community, and focuses on helping every Black woman recognize the chief that already exists within her—by introducing the ones who live among us.

Thasunda is only the third Black woman to ever be CEO of a Fortune 500 company and only one of two currently serving in that role. She most recently added to her historic legacy in an interview with the first Black female Vice President of The United States, Kamala Harris during the Global Black Economic Forum at this year’s Essence Festival.

This must-see conversation explores legacy and leadership through life and loss and using your authenticity and purpose as your superpower in the professional and personal world. Get into these sage words of wisdom and check out the full interview at Essence.com or click the link in bio.

#ESSENCE #ChieftoChief

Featuring: wangawoman thasunda
Photo: raganhenderson
Caroline Makeup: keys_rebelle
Caroline Clothing: chocolateclothesglobal
Caroline Fascinator: ashakagivens
Thasunda Makeup: beautibylisa
Production: themorrisongroup
Special Thanks: parklanenewyork

## Stats

- **Views:** 5,666
- **Likes:** 681
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- **Comments:** 55

## Tags

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