“We’re a blue-collar program.” Loved this conversation with guntorob, who is building uncwswimmingdiving on the foundation of hard work. Even if you’ve never swam a lap, you’ll appreciate his love for uncwilmington and philosophy to build a championship program and so much more. Hit the link in our bio for the full conversation, or check out Perchcast via Apple, Google Play or Spotify! #uncw #uncwilmington #swimswam #collegeswimming #ncaaswim