What do you do in your life that allows you to forget everything else? Excerpted from my conversation about art (+ why it matters) with ocmamuseum director heidizuckerman — a global authority on contemporary art and a friend dating back to the early 90s. The full conversation (Rich Roll Podcast #696) can be found on my YouTube channel and your favorite podcast platform. Or click link in bio or google “Rich Roll Heidi Zuckerman” and it will pop right up. This is a beautiful episode. I hope you carve out time for it. ✌🏼🌱 -Rich