"Once those laws get passed, police are enforcing them, even if those laws are anti-democratic, inhumane, and unjust." Empire City host, Chenjerai Kumanyika, pushes back on the idea that the police or policing keep us safe, in a discussion with Pod Save America's Tommy Vietor. Follow Empire City wherever you get your podcasts. Binge all episodes early and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App or on Apple Podcasts. Link: lnk.to/EmpireCity #EmpireCity #PodSaveAmerica #CrookedMedia #NYPD