Welcome to Carthon’s Corner on With The First Pick! Where former NFL GM Ran Carthon and CBS Sports NFL Draft Expert Ryan Wilson are joined by personnel around the league ahead of the 2025 season! In today’s episode, the guys are joined by Browns GM Andrew Berry and Jaguars GM James Gladstone for a unique interview. Learn the story behind how the shocking 2025 NFL Draft trade came together, their thoughts on being the league’s youngest GMs, and much more! (00:00) Intro (1:53) Gladstone on how trade conversation started (4:07) Berry on trading without knowing Gladstone prior (5:52) Both on being young GMs (9:26) Berry’s advice to Gladstone in year 1 as GM (13:46) Gladstone on when trade talks started / Travis so far (16:52) Berry’s initial thoughts on trading out of No. 2 (19:37) Communication in organizations to make trades happen (24:51) Trades aren’t quick and simple / this was a secret (26:19) Jaguars had 0 concern Titans would take Travis Hunter (28:03) What athlete from another s...