Explorer niccolobanfi has traveled to the edges of the planet, from Antarctica to remote islands in the Pacific. In those places, he realized we don’t manage the world. We learn from it. In this episode, Niccolò sits down with cyriellehariel to reflect on uncertainty, purpose, and why what began as exploration became a mission, even without certainties. Full episode now streaming on Spotify, YouTube & Apple Podcasts. #BecauseThereIsNoPlanetB