We spoke to Laiken Jordahl, National Public Lands Advocate for Center for Biological Diversity, about the threats to public lands at the border. An example of exactly what he spoke about just played out as border wall construction bulldozed a sacred Indigenous site at Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge. 🎙️ Find the full episode of the Landscape on our channel or wherever you find podcasts. #publiclands #arizona #outdoorrecreation