So, yes, as some of you might have seen me giddily post yesterday, Dr Phil read my new book A MORE JUST FUTURE (OMG!). It turns out that this topic of our country's complicated past is one he has been thinking since taking an eye-opening college course in the 1960s. Dr. Phil wanted to chat so I joined him for an hour long conversation on his podcast, Phil in the Blanks. It was a great conversation and it reminded me not to assume who will or will not be interested in engaging in dialogue. He is thinking deeply about the challenges of unlearning history and our emotional relationship with our country's complicated past. I learned a great deal from talking to him. The hour-long episode went live today and I really think it's worth a full listen. But, if you only have 15 minutes, then be sure to check out these segments (I forced myself to listen to myself to get these for you lol!): - 08:15 - 12:30: our discussion about what I call the patriot's dilemma and being a gritty patriot; Dr....