Before Telly Justice (oatmeal_goth) became a Food & Wine Best New Chef and co-owner of HAGS (hags_nyc), she played drums in a self-described “terrible grunge band” called Skaz at all-ages shows where her parents bought everyone pizza. On this episode of #TinfoilSwans, she talks about stumbling into restaurant work through a crew of “punks, weirdos, and queer people,” the radical mayonnaise that transformed her cooking, and building a restaurant where every diner receives a “distillate of pure care.” Listen now at the link in bio 🎧!