Feeling stuck in slow, rigid systems at work? In this episode of the Leading Up podcast, globally renowned management expert Gary Hamel joins host Alan Todd to challenge the status quo of bureaucracy—and offer bold, actionable alternatives from his book Humanocracy. 🧠 Hamel dives into the history of modern management, how bureaucratic thinking stifles creativity and innovation, and why empowering frontline teams is the key to future-ready leadership. Timestamps 00:00 – Meet Gary Hamel, co-author of Humanocracy 01:00 – Why bureaucracy dehumanizes work 02:00 – A brief history of management systems 04:30 – Why bureaucracy persists—and how it self-replicates 07:00 – Innovation is stalling. Bureaucracy might be why. 09:00 – Employee disengagement & Gallup stats on leadership 12:00 – Do we really need managing—or just better systems? 14:00 – The case for self-managing teams 17:00 – Why AI won’t save us without rethinking hierarchy 20:00 – From strategy to innovation to human-first organiz...