It’s time for a #JustTransition, shifting from harmful, unsustainable models to creating decent, green jobs that prioritise people and the planet. Join Carl and Joycelyn in their conversation with Rhoda Boateng, Program Coordinator of “Climate Change, Just Transition & Occupational Health and Safety” of the International Trade Union Confederation. #SystemShift is a podcast that explores how we can move from a world that serves the economy to an economy that serves people and the planet.